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Nov 24 2008

is it me or do boxers have more polished skills then ufc fighters?

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evalistinho asked:


not to offend ufc fighters i got respect for them and they are complete fighters but as a person who boxes i feel our striking skills look more technical as ufc fighters look more like wild punchers

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2 Responses to “is it me or do boxers have more polished skills then ufc fighters?”

Nov 27 2008

Dump

Definitely ! UFC guyes just end up on the ground every time waiting for a tap out . Boxer have to stand and fight and only above the waste .

Nov 29 2008

Everyone else is crazy...but me!

Look…over a 3-4 year period of training 3 hours a day, 3 days a week, for instance…boxers will use that entire time to train in boxing skills. UFC fighters will train about 75% ground fighting, and 25% striking (including elbows, knees, kicks, and punches) so they are not going to be as skilled in punching as a boxer.

Nov 30 2008

banjaxed

I boxed years ago and I think that a boxer is the better fighter

Hand speed is faster and a good boxer could probably hit one of these guys with a good combo before they had a chance to throw

I remember talking to a second degree black belt named Bill one time who had the pleasure of sparring with former middleweight PKA champ Jean Yves Therriault once and he said all he could see coming at him was a blur of punches , and as you know pka punches are alot of the same punches thrown in boxing

Dec 2 2008

shane s

MMA, mixed martial arts, fighters such as in the UFC are not always trained in one specific discipline and focus on a well rounded attack where as boxers train boxing and nothing else for most of there lives. So from the striking with the hands aspect yes most boxers have the more technical punches. Also when a mixed martial artist punches he or she has to be able to defend takedowns, punches, kicks, and knees. Boxers only have to defend their opponents punches. If a boxer were to grapple with a mixed martial artist you would notice the boxer to be the less technical of the two.

Dec 4 2008

life_loverfl

I would not say that UFC fighters use skills that are better or inferior to traditional boxers. They just use a different discipline in their fights.

Dec 6 2008

elmer_fuddstien

The strategy is different for UFC as it’s so much easier to score a lucky punch KO, that skill isn’t as necessary as aggressiveness and luck. You can’t count on luck in a boxing match.

***to the guy below me: you’re telling me that you can land a one-punch lucky ko in boxing as easily as you can in the UFC? You can swing and hope when you’re swinging with a 4 oz glove. Swing and hope with a 10 oz and see how effective that is****

Dec 8 2008

rogerc

boxers look more polished because they cant do anything but punch above the belt due to the rules. look at all the clenching in boxing, especially heavyweights. those cleches would turn into ground fighting if it werent for the rules. a pure boxer stands a “punchers chance” against a ufc guy, but if you put the top 100 boxers against the top 100 ufc fighters in matches with ufc rules the ufc would win in a landslide. if the rules let you go to the ground you damn well better know what to do there. i used to box so i guess i wish it wasnt true, but it is. a guy like matt hughes would kick the crap outta the top boxers in his weight class

to the guy above me. you seriously have never seen a lucky punch in boxing??? do you watch?? ive had lucky punches landed on me, and ive landed them too.

Dec 9 2008

teachingazteca

The difference is that UFC fighters are training differently, but they are not less polished. Boxers are limited to the locations and methods with which they strike, so they train these areas much more intensely compared to MMA fighters who have more locations and methods with which to strike, grapple, submit, etc. They do throw wilder punches, but they have to prepare for not only boxing-type strikes (Liddel’s specialty) but also takedowns, kicks, etc. that boxers don’t have to worry, so of course a lot less time is devoted into honing those types of punches. I think if you tried to fight in the UFC using a boxing stance, you would get taken down ASAP because it does not defend against takedowns or grappling or kicks, just for being struck from the front.

Dec 10 2008

gannoway

Absolutely, nobody can perfect too many things. UFC fighters are trying to be a boxer, a wrestler, a kickboxer and a submission artist in one person. Can’t do that. Do you anyone who is great in football, basketball, baseball and soccer at the same time. That is why boxer look better and that is why boxer get paid alot more.

Dec 13 2008

Paul D

The striking done in mma looks different because the rules of the sport are different. You’re very unlikely to see in-fighter style boxing done successfully in ufc, b/c it would simply lead to a clinch and probable takedown. Take the hooks and uppercuts out of boxing and already it’s gonna look a lot less technical. Also the defense of boxers will look more technical because their mind only has one focus, don’t get punched (I understand that entails a lot, sorry if I oversimplify). No matter how much a person spars, having to avoid punches, kicks, elbows, knees, clinches, wrestling shots, and even a few standing submissions, all while looking for an opening to deliver all of the above to your opponent yourself is gonna divide your attention. This is probably why the wild swings and strikes you see are higher percentage in mma. Ppl get caught while going in for a takedown, or trying to avoid a takedown, etc. Don’t let boxers kid you though, a top level boxer would lose to a mediocre mma fighter under mma rules, and vice versa under boxing rules. They’re simply different sports.

Dec 14 2008

crikket04

ALOT OF U CATS R IDIOTS THE QUESTION IS ABOUT STRIKING NOT ANYTHING ELSE STRIKING THERES UFC GUYS THAT THINK THEY KNOW HOW TO BOX LIKE THE BEST U ALWAYS HEAR THEM SAY (I WANNA STAND WITH THIS GUY AND KNOCK HIM OUT )WELL I HAVE SOME NEWS 4 THEM THEY COULDNT STAND WITH A WASHED UP OLD BOXER MUCH LESS A CHAMP.NOW U HAVE NEVER HEARD A BOXER SAY THEY HAVE SKILLS IN GRAPPLING OR WRESTLING SO THATS IRRELEVENT EVERY1 KNOWS THAT A BOXER WOULD LOSE IF THEY WERE ON THE GROUND BUT THAT WASNT THE?WAS IT I SEEN A FIGHT IN THE PLAYGROUND 2DAY THAT REMINDED ME OF UFC FIGHTING THEY WERE PROBABLY LIKE 14 YRS OLD THEY WERE THROWING SOME HAY MAKERS AT EACH OTHER THEN ONE OF THEM GOT CAUGHT THE OTHER ONE GOT SCARED SO HE STARTED TRYING 2 WRESTLE PROBABLY CAUSE HE DIDNT WANT 2 GET HIT NOMORE AND COULDNT STAND UP AN TAKE IT U KNOW LIKE UFC GUYS

Dec 14 2008

Johnny N

Boxers have more polished blocking and ducking skills. Do keep in mind that many UFC fighters do have some experience in boxing. They have to throw a little sloppy and leave their hands low at times to defend takedowns so you can’t always blame them for a high and tight defense.

Dec 18 2008

Scott M

It is a different skillset. Boxing isnt a fighting style it is a sport that translates fairly well into the realm of fighting. The rules of boxing allow for the polished look. Without those rules it would turn into the UFC pretty quick.

13 years of boxing. Florida state champion bantam weight 1994-1996.

Dec 19 2008

Woody

All I can say is that I agree with you. I can’t really add anything else, since a lot of members have already covered the reason, which was basically the training methods.

Dec 19 2008

That one guy over there

Due to the way UFC began (BJJ beats up the world) there has always been a MASSIVE emphasis on the ground game vs the standup game, because that was what was successful. It’s only recently that strikers have been successful in the sport, by using the sprawl/takedown defence, showing the need for standup skills. With time, eventually the quality striking will catch up to the quality of the wrestling, but it has a few years to go.

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