mixed martial arts and tae kwon do?

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because the tkd we see is mainly sport, and it doesnt work in real self defence.

TKD isnt useless…..MMA has its flaws mainly being closed minded and forgeting the Tao, and taekwondo is usally based on kicking and tournament use. But soem taekwondo school retain their military history. Taekwondo is a military martial art in korea, whether a school practices it that way is up to their lineage. All martial arts are worth cross-training in and learning from. I seen an awesome TKD who beat a muay thai fighter using lightning quick kick combos. Its all in the practicioner and if the school train like hardcore forreal! Whoever bashes your art are idiots…..let your skills and Budo speak for themself….keep training!

here we go with the real. Real self defense is against a thug rarely trained in any skill of any level. Now go to a TKD school and look at some of the BB’s. They can take out some@ breaking in your home.
Now you suppose that all home breaking’s are MMA style fighters?
C’mon get real !!!!!!
All the various styles will teach you self defense against a foe that some person used in their homeland in Real Self- Defense. Did it win in MMA, nope…. So show me how many styles that have yet are still being part of the mix to equal MMA? Again understand that TKD is more than self defense it is a refined fighting style meeting the standards of the country of origin.
Now if you live in such a bad place these skills are not adequate, move cause the mug’s where your at probably have guns n-e ways. MMA is Sport MA so you better be good is all. They mix the styles to cover the holes for the sport of it , and well it takes training to be that good. How many bad guys train like that to lose it all being a bad guy?
MA is for the street. Self Defense is keeping safe. All a part of MA> and all martial artists know this. MMA can teach this skill as well, and also how to win in a fight if need be. If your style can also do that what does it all matter if folks love MA so much they made a great sport!

Whence the need to bash? From a martial stand-point, bashing in itself is a waste of energy and shows either immaturity or weakness of character and focus – unless the bashing is deliberately aimed at distabilizing its recipient and increasing his tension level.
Always be aware of your own state and do not let your opponent take hold of it.

Tae kwon do is one of the definitive systems in terms of kicking techniques. It combines accuracy, lightning speed and power as well as being in my opinion, one of the most aesthetically elegant systems.
Taekwondoistes are very light on their feet which makes them very hard to catch and extremely effective at counter-attacking.
TKD being a striking art, the artist is trained to enter the strike zone, apply the damage and exit swiflty.

The main gripe I usually hear against TKD is that competitors present their backs when fighting in tournaments – due to the actual no-score ruling on this area.
Target Area (ITF):
a.- Head at the front and sides but not at the back.
b.- Trunk of the body from shoulder to navel vertically and from a line drawn from the armpit vertically down to the waist on each side (that is frontal area only, excluding the back).

This of course would be a precarious stance to adopt in a real fight situation – as the spinal area is very fragile and as it is it best not to systematically turn one’s back on the opponent.

Another criticism is that TKD puts little emphasis on grappling, a useful skill IF the fight is taken to the ground – but again, getting a TKD expert to the ground in the first place is no easy feat.

In MMA, mat work predominates to the point some call it “Men on Mats Arguing” lol jk
Not to deride it but in a real life situation, getting on a hardfloor where there may be broken glasses, numerous adversaries kicking you at once, etc… is a risky proposition.
By the time a MMA fighter tries to apply a neck choke or an arm lock, he’d get hit out of nowhere by one or many other adversaries – being static and exposed is not a good idea.
MMA do not train their adepts to face multiple opponents at once. As a result, they lack awareness and preparedness for such situations.

The best strategy when facing multiple opponents though is:

_____________RUN !!!_____________ LOL

To answer your question in a different way: someone bashing TKD for being a combat sport while praising MMA would not be a very logical basher

edit: This answer was given with the premise that the practitioners of both sports would solely design their training for competition and also that they would not seek additional forms of training in other combat disciplines. If they did, as Bruce Lee advocated, this would effectively close the debate and render the question null.

Taekwondo has gone through a lot of changes in the past 40 years. 40 years ago, Taekwondo looked almost exactly like the Shotokan Karate out of which it developed. Today though, much has been changed for Olympic style competition. Also, there are many Taekwondo McDojangs, so many people have bad experiences with the style. That being said, there are many benefits to Taekwondo, and Taekwondo can be taught in a more traditional fashion, and well.

i quote from one of the greatest fighters ever. there are no bad styles and no good styles. they all vary. allhave good points and bad points. the key is to develope yourself and your style. bruce lee created jeet kune do. a mutt if you will of several different styles and his perspective on how they should work. tae kwon do being one of those styles.

Because most people dont know the history behind Tae Kwon Do, and therefore their only logical response is to bash what they dont know for the obvious of what they do. Yeah MMA was started strictly as a sport, it has never been advised to study MMA and expect to be an expert in self defense, like you can do with Tae Kwon Do. TKD was started as a combat training system, just like Muay Thai. Now if you put those two together in a fight, Muay Thai would be the victor, sorry to say but I have seen it numerous times.

MMA was started actually when they started fighting to see who was the better martial art. Who was the real bad boy and who was the glamour art. Funny thing that Karate never won in any fight competition. After they had to sanction the fighting and put rules to the competitions, people started learning all forms of martial arts, combining them together for the competition and therefore it became known as MMA.

Because you dont punch to the face in TKD, this makes it suffer in the eyes of other combat sports. TKD’s sparring is a serious joke when compared to mma. TKD practioners hang their hands so low and that makes me sick.